[Diy_efi] Speed Density EFI adaptable to V-Twin?

Gianmarco Rizzo BE/EAS gianmarco.rizzo
Mon May 30 08:42:53 UTC 2005


this is what amazes me of some EFI applications.


such sophisticated boxes with so many features but fueling is wrong...

gm
> Interesting...
> 
> I believe that the BMW ECU also controlls the ABS biasing 
> real-time. Takes
> into account suspension weight distribution. 
> 
> I don't know anyone that has cracked the Motronic Eeprom 
> layout, or has
> software to do the mods. I sure would like that. I have a 
> 2002 R1150RA, and
> it has a bit of a lean surge problem below 1500RPM. Would 
> love to connect
> Datamaster to the ECU like I do on my Z28 and see what is going on.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org 
> [mailto:diy_efi-bounces at diy-efi.org] On
> Behalf Of Adam Wade
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:21 PM
> To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
> Subject: RE: [Diy_efi] Speed Density EFI adaptable to V-Twin?
> 
> 
> --- Terry Kramer <tkramer at snipepod.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not intimately familiar with the Delphi system,
> > but have a hard time believing that any motorcycle
> > (or car) EFI system can match the technology
> > in the latest BMW Motoronic system.
> 
> The things you list are not necessarily more advanced 
> technology.  They are
> just features, built from old technology.  Anyone could build 
> an ECU with
> what BMW has going on, if they wanted to spend the extra coin 
> for additional
> bandwidth or processor power.  The most innovative thing they 
> have going is
> the offset spark, which is a great idea for a broad, flat 
> combustion chamber
> design.  However, except for retard based on knock, it 
> appears to be an
> open-loop spark timing system.
> 
> The Delphi ECU handshakes and exchanges data with at
> least two other controllers on the bike (the alarm
> module and the turn signal module), and uses a basic
> form of ion sensing -- by far the most advanced
> technology used on a motorcycle ECU of any sort.
> 
> The Motronic ECUs used on motorcycles are also very
> close to being a total mystery, at least to all the
> companies and tuners I have spoken with.  Harley
> Davidson offer software that will let you make fairly
> major changes in your stock Delphi ECU's mapping, and
> of course it is already adapted to a Harley v-angle
> and displacement, making it a cinch for setting up on
> another Harley.  The original poster required that the
> hardware be fully mappable, and I don't see anything
> available for the BMW Motronic units that would
> provide any access at all.  If there's something out
> there for this purpose that I don't yet know about,
> I'd be very interested in hearing about it.
> 
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