Aargh. (was Re: Now what?)

TK terryk at foothill.net
Thu May 27 01:01:33 GMT 1999


Well said Mike,

I am more than happy to spill my guts. I also have to wander through other
people's guts too.

I think it's the "send me all of your work" that bugs some of us.

Terry Kelley


-----Original Message-----
From: Shannen Durphey <shannen at grolen.com>
To: gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu <gmecm at efi332.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 9:54 AM
Subject: Aargh. (was Re: Now what?)


>Mike Pitts wrote:
>
>> You should read any Motorola MCU manual you can get your hands
>> on.  The HC11 is my favorite.
>>
>> -Mike
>
>Read Motorola manual.... I've tried many times to do that.  Puts me to
>sleep faster than a bad movie.  Can read, and only guess.  Where to go
>to "do" after the "read" ?
>I'll explain this differently.  Let's say I've got a book that
>provides technical details about pistons.  Trying to understand engine
>operation from that book would be, at best, a chore.  So I run out and
>buy something like Vizard's books, that talk about different types of
>pistons, and rod ratios, and crankshaft materials, and ring types.
>I've got some pretty hefty notions, but still no idea of what to do to
>overhaul my stocker, or even how to tell what's worn when I
>dissasemble it.  But I see pictures of torque wrenches, and
>micrometers, and other tools in the book.  Thinking I'm going to need
>them, I run out and buy bunches of tools, maybe end up with an
>inch-pound torque wrench, or a set of inside mics that only go to 2",
>not really knowing what's going to work.  I still have made no
>progress on getting the engine work done, but I've sure started a
>collection of stuff.
>I had to give myself a pat on the back the other day.  Someone asked
>about using multiple proms, and I accurately predicted the answer
>would involve the "chip enable".  I've seen that a few times.  After
>that, I was lost.  Like many other times, I saved the posted answer
>for a later day.
>
>Someone, please, volunteer some clues for the guys that are doggedly
>hanging in, watching for useful stuff.  Books, beginner's lists,
>something.  I'm going to end up so durn frustrated that I go back to
>school for 4 more years, just to learn to understand a small aspect of
>what's inside a .5625 square inch piece of silicon.
>I've helped some guys on the list with some mechanical stuff that's
>pretty basic.  It's not a problem for me.  I know that everyone has to
>start somewhere.  Many mechanics feel that they've worked hard to
>learn the tricks and tips they use, and they're not going to give them
>out to anyone.  I see no reason to make everyone re-invent the wheel.
>I've chosen to learn much of what I know, and don't mind sharing,
>especially with someone who wants to learn.  It's not going to cut my
>throat to help a list member understand how to diagnose their own
>driveability problems, or to tell the difference between an exhaust
>rattle and a gear noise.
>
>Some guys seem to treat this programming info like it's reserved for a
>chosen few.  Generally, the people on this list are willing to help, I
>think they just forget where some of us stand in the puddle of
>knowledge.
>Shannen
>*doing the clue mating dance*
>
>




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