Call for standards: EPROM/cal editing

[Dave Zug]

Yes, correct, agreed, witness, confirmed, and seconded.  

In a nutshell - its the WAY you go about gathering the information, and what you say when you ask for it or discuss it that sets people like terry apart from others who arrive one day, discuss "personal' interests, than all of a sudden release something commercial and high priced out of the blue. 

I've used terry's package - never any others (no reason for me to) I have suggested add-ons that have been , in some cases implemented within 30 minutes. I have offered to 'spread the word' or endorse the package because I beleive in the DIY creedo, and terry has shy'd away from this - my web site used to get 1400 hits a week before I closed the message board.

I have nothing to gain for expressing these views. I can write my own commercial tweaking package in the matter of hours using things from the incoming FTP only, as many other people can. I feel that the couple of guys who pioneered the effort deserve the spoils that filter their way - remember theres a downside to the activity as well, you have to be dedicated to some level of support and you put up with software theft constantly. I bet 10% of users are owners. I also bet terry doesn't mind as much as you might think, but I'm guessing.

Applause to the software guys, the cable guys, the people with fully disclosing web pages, the guys who respond with all they know, and the pitbulls who guard against greed, corruption, and the activities that make listers STOP responding openly.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: TK 
  To: gmecm at diy-efi.org 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 10:38 PM
  Subject: Re: Call for standards: EPROM/cal editing 


  Well, I can say this. I've used next to nothing, and I mean next to nothing from the open discussions I've seen here to make my program. I own none of the competitons programs. I have the listings or I've figured it out myself. Have I asked tons of questions? You bet, but 99% private. Did the people know I was making the program and EPE files and would sell it? Yep, in fact that's what has driven the ones I've done. Demand. How did I get the lists? From various places. Contacts are the key. However, ANY ONE that has helped essentially gets free dibs on anything I've written. If there is anyone that thinks I abused them after receiving information, let me know. I think I've been pretty fair about the whole thing. I know I don't share too much in details on this list, but privately I've been pretty open. 

  My program was not created from the wealth of information here. It was created with the wealth of assistance from other people and hard time-consuming work. I've tried to give them back what they gave me.

  Terry
    Question, why is it that some listers can sell their EFI related products 
    created from the wealth of info here without ramifications, and others are 
    lynched for the same thing. Seems inconsistent treatment to me. Terry Kelly 
    comes to mind for ex. but there are others. 

    JW 
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