[Gmecm] SAturn engine swap

Tue Nov 29 04:15:24 UTC 2005

  Have you e-mailed TunerCat?  They have some def files that are not listed
on the "supported ECM" list. They had a 2-bar def for the little 1226869 I
am using in my car, but it is not listed on the site. As many Saturns as are
out there, surely TunerCat would have a demand for this definition.
   Good luck with the turbo.  I ran into this buying what was supposedly a
Spal (http://www.spalusa.com) radiator fan but it was a Chinese counterfeit.
The motor was half the size of the real thing, and the plastic molded fan
rotor was warped and out of balance.
  After being exposed to the heat of a radiator, the rotor warped so badly
it got in the radiator. Thankfully the plastic was so cheap and soft it
deformed before cutting the radiator core.
  And it was SUPER weak and would barely cool the 305 engine. Running the
A/C was WAY out of the question...
  You could see where they had taken a real Spal fan and used it for a
pattern to make a mold.  The Spal logo was still slightly visible, as were
CAST IN vestiges of where the fan they copied had balancing weights on it.
The fake one had cast-in "bumps" that were shaped like clip-on balance
weights. Unreal.
  Later,
David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Silva" <low_sl2 at yahoo.com>
To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Gmecm] SAturn engine swap

> Thanks for checking out our website.  We aim to please. ;)
>
> We're still trying to get that company to take this turbo back.  But
> they're not answering their e-mails or phones.  So I'm stuck with a
> $205 freight bill for this turbo...
>
> Now can someone help me with this .BIN file I have of a Saturn EPROM?
> :)
>
> http://www.differentracing.com/jeff/pcm/94_dohc_fed.bin
>
> Jeff Silva
> DifferentRacing.com
>
>
> --- David Allen <davida1 at hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
> >   Jeff, I like your Different Racing website! Found your Chinese
> > turbo story
> > particularly amusing. I can definately relate to that! I debated on
> > wether
> > to buy a Turbonetics unit or a knock-off and am glad I chose the real
> > McCoy.
> > Turbonetics knows their stuff and got me exactly the right turbo for
> > the
> > application.
> >   Once you've done a certain job several times it goes quicker. I
> > certainly
> > see what you are claiming is possible on the engine R&I.
> >   Years ago (highschool age) a friend and I pulled the 440-T4
> > automatic
> > transaxle out of a FWD Buick Lesabre.  We dropped it out below,
> > letting the
> > engine hang by 2x4 boards and chain.  It was a very dangerous
> > exercise and
> > we broke some parts in the process. I would never recommend this
> > approach on
> > such a heavy transmission.  It is easier to pull the drivetrain as an
> > assy
> > from above on these cars.
> >   These cars have a large heavy 6 cyl engine and 4 speed auto trans.
> > The
> > board sagged and nothing lined back up.  We had to jack the engine
> > around
> > and shim up the board to get it back into position.  After the trans
> > was
> > reconnected with 2 bolts, the 2x4 broke.  The whole drivetrain fell
> > into the
> > engine cradle and very nearly knocked the car off the stands. It
> > cracked one
> > "ear" of the trans bellhousing and bent the driveplate.  The car ran
> > but
> > with a vibration in the engine.
> >   After that fiasco, we borrowed an engine lift and pulled the
> > assembly "the
> > right way" to replace the bent driveplate.  Live and learn!
> > David
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jeff Silva" <low_sl2 at yahoo.com>
> > To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 3:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Gmecm] SAturn engine swap
> >
> >
> > > Like I said before.  I've done this over a dozen times.  It can be
> > > done.  You just use a load tilter.  It's easy.
> > >
> > > Jeff Silva
> > > DifferentRacing.com
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Andrew Gibson <andrewsharyn at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Little tilt huh? Then why need the load tilter? I would like to
> > see
> > > > any virgin engine get pulled out of a fwd car in less than 1 hour
> > > > without breaking anything in the process. Now offence Jeff but
> > what
> > > > you are describing time wise is just not possible. Maybe you
> > could
> > > > tilt the motor enough to get it out the top. But that is still a
> > lot
> > > > of work. I'll stick to dropping them out the bottom.
> > > >
> > > >   Oh, by the way I live in Utah. And I need to pull the motor out
> > of
> > > > my donor truck this weekend before it snows again. I would like
> > to
> > > > see pictures of how much tilt it take to get these out the top
> > > > though.
> > > >
> > > >   Just for the record, Cinder blocks stacked in a pyramid with
> > the
> > > > open end up and 2x4 on top to keep the pinchweld from digging
> > into
> > > > the mortar are far more stable than any jackstand out there.
> > > > Something about a wider base....
> > > >
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