[Gmecm] Re: Gmecm Digest, Vol 15, Issue 14

[William Lucke]

I have my opinions and you have yours.


Will



> From: Mike V <efi at dyakron.com>
> Subject: Re: [Gmecm] Re: LS1's with fuel leaks
> 
> At 11:10 AM 5/15/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>> Ok, I'll bite... How did you get that big cammed gen III? I think that in 
>> the VAST majority of cases, it came out of a car in which it already had a 
>> perfectly serviceable fuel injection setup. Ditching that for a carb for 
>> "ease of installation" is silly in my opinion, especially considering how 
>> much you give up (gas mileage, idle quality, etc) and the fact that it's 
>> more trouble to swap to carb than it is to buy a stand alone controller 
>> and pre-fabbed wiring harness. There are enough people out there doing 
>> that that you could likely borrow a couple of maps and be running (not 
>> fully tuned, but running) next week.
> 
> A cam install can really help the power numbers of the 6.0L
> as much as any other single mod assuming no boost or nitrous.
> As for getting your hands on an engine with no harness, most of
> the ones that my engine business friend gets have no harnesses.
> GM truck 6.0 & 4.8 longblocks from manufacturer over-run buyouts often
> come with no harness or intake, but are very attractive pricewise.
> Thanks to sales shortfalls, the Detroit connected re-marketers
> moved quite a few of these into the market at attractive prices.
> Many of the customers (myself included) got these new units
> without intake or harness.  (I chose to go the EFI route).  That,
> or, say a junkyard engine on which the intake was damaged and
> the harness was cut. Therefore the price is good.  Good late model
> GM harnesses aren't cheap when you can find a yard that will go
>   to the trouble of removing it.
> The MSD ignition box is around $250 delivered, with harness.
> My dragster example certainly wouldn't be concerned with idle quality
> or gas mileage.  Also, if you "borrow maps" you would then then load
> them with what?  What sort of money would be needed for computer(s)
>   cables & software?  As for *used* engines, mine usually come with
> sensors & little/no harness and I never see the car or truck they
> came out of.  It sounds like you have time to diddle with the N*
> as I do my project, as we go with EFI.  I just gave some examples
> of situations where the people may not be neanderthals, but simply
> want to hit the track next week with the new-tech deep breathing
> engine for minimum $$.  I forgot to mention learning curve too.
> We can argue about total cost till the cows come in.
> Cheers,
> mv