Reasonably priced at 2 million dollars??
Bernd Felsche
bernie at innovative.iinet.net.au
Sat Dec 8 07:54:27 GMT 2001
Shannen Durphey tapped away at the keyboard with:
> Bernd Felsche wrote:
>
> > > > Bugatti Veyron. You got the $2 million? Bugatti's taking orders.
> > >
> > > What are you, on freaking drugs?
> >
> > They are streetable cars. That's what was asked. Just because
> > they're espen$ive doesn't mean that they're not streetable.
> Nothing was asked. The original statement was "The best
> performing Reasonably priced car in the world today still uses an
> OHV engine."
> The car you're talking about is not reasonably priced.
What's a reasonable price for a streetable car that'll do more than 400kmh?
To put it another way; if you were "worth" $500 million, would the
Veyron seem to be reasonably-priced at a million Euro?
> > And your 200mph nascars are equipped a full luxury cars as well,
> Nope. Pointless waste of arse warmers and walnut cupholders.
> > meet all emission and crash requirements?
> They meet the emissions requirements they're designed to meet.
> They hold up sufficiently in lap after lap of abuse. And the
> Bugatti? Statistically cars in that price range do not meet
> emissions requirements. The manufacturer simply pays the fines
> required by the government in the country where the car is sold.
Bugatti Veyron will exceed requirements of Euro-4
> And I wonder how well the Bugatti will hold up in the same
> conditions "my" nascar racer is designed for.
> > They're air conditioned?
> Nope. And it gets pretty damn hot in those fire suits. But my
> personal car isn't air conditioned either so I don't consider that
> a necessary portion of the definition of a reasonably priced
> streetable car.
> > Leather seats?
> What has leather to do with "a car capable of speeds close to
> 400kmh and still driveable around town" ?
It adds mass and underscores that it's a car designed for everyday
use.
> > They go around real corners too?
> Yeah... Those turns at the end of the track? They don't really
> exist. Those boys run for 200 straight miles and everything is
> done with camera tricks. Last race in the Poconos found the boys
> finishing in New York. Was ok though, since it was a straight
> line from there to the next race.
> > And along normal, bumpy roads?
> Yep, you can drive those cars along normal, bumpy roads. In fact,
> the road I'm speaking about was resurfaced for the first time
> since 1988, so the cars running the course were driven along 90
> miles of normal, bumpy roads.
> Here's a link to the race page.
> http://www.silverstateclassic.com/home.htm
> A look through previous years' race reslts shows that former stock
> cars dominate the unlimited speed class, topping Porsche CTRs,
> twin turbos, and other exotic cars. Some time spent reading about
> the race and the participants should give you an appreciation of
> how adaptable the old stock cars are.
> > You can drive them down to the corner shop?
> I work at a corner shop (literally and figuratively) where race
> cars are built and repaired. We fix them right along side VW's.
> Really. We even keep parts in stock for 'em.
> > The Veyron will be a proper, road-going car.
>
> It will not be repairable at the corner shop, it will not be
> reasonably priced, and it may not even be found in this country.
Take a look in Bill Gates' garage in 2003.
> It does not represent a good argument that the best performing
> reasonably priced cars are not using OHV engines.
> And it is no less specialized than the nascar cars. Fewer than
> .0000001% of the world population will own one, they will not be
> produced in larger volume than the nascar cars, and as yet they
> are nothing more than a promise of performance. The nascar racer
> should be considered in this comparison.
> > It's a bit dark at the moment. (1 a.m.)
> With this comment I'm beginning to gain some insight into Bernd Felsch.
Timezones? I was asked the colour of the sky. You ask, you get an
answer that may be more correct than what you counted on.
> > > > > What's a reasonable
> > > > > price for a car capable of speeds close to 400kmh and still
> > > > > driveable around town?
> > >
> > > $150k US dollars for the "Buy it, don't build it" crowd.
> >
> > ?? $150k US won't buy you one.
> It will. You're wrong. $150k US will buy an emissions legal car
I didn't say the bit your quoted. You've lost the attribution.
> that meets US crashworthiness specifications, exceeds federal
> braking requirements, comes with computer aided handling and
> traction control, leather seats, air conditioning, cd player, and
> all sorts of other nonsense. And it's made in the US. And it
> approaches speeds close to 400km/hr. *And* it sports an OHV
> engine. **And** it's design actually has some relation to the
> original subject line "intake manifold construction."
> Care to make a guess as to which vehicle?
Forgive me if I don't care.
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