Dyno testing turbo cars

Mark S. Riley turbotuneusltd at triad.rr.com
Mon Jul 23 00:24:30 GMT 2001


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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Hugh=20
  To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:50 PM
  Subject: Dyno testing turbo cars


  Hi Guys,

  Dyno testing is an expensive hobby and seems to be hard on the engine =
and transmission. I also feel the temperatures especially on turbo cars =
rise so quickly that any tuning modifications are likely to be =
inaccurate.

  Perhaps your time on a dyno didn't have enought cool time between =
pulls. Have to let the engine temp and intercooler temps get back to =
normal whether it's on the road or on the dyno. I've got some pretty =
good fans on the Dynojet I have and believe me, I don't miss trying to =
dial in a fuel injection system on a car making 5 or 600 hp at the =
wheels in the road. Even 400 is a real pill if the conditions aren't =
perfect. With the traffic laws and traffic as they are now, I for one =
don't need a ticket for the careless and reckless along with speeding in =
excess of the speed limit anywhere in the US for trying to get a "good =
pass" down a country road to record a sound track on a tape recorder =
that I'll have to clean and alter in order to show "my pull" on the =
computor so then I can make a change and go do it again. Sure can do a =
lot of testing in a few hours and not waste one minute on the little ole =
gray haired lady, other traffic, the Law, the weather or the thousand =
other assorted problems that happen when out driving on public roads. =
Course, you are the one you have to justify your time and money too. As =
far as dyno testing being hard on the engine and transmission, in the =
last 2 years, I've killed the trans on 3 cars on the dyno in high gear =
and we've wounded 2 engines bad enough to have to tow them away. If it =
won't live on the dyno, it sure won't last long in the street.
      We have more and more guys showing up and complaining that they =
can't get consistent test passes at the drag strip. Starting line =
conditions, weather changes from pass to pass, most often, just not =
enough time to make passes, ie( too many cars). In the last 14 years =
here, the traffic density has increased drasticly, then I could drive 5 =
minutes and have a diserted business park street to make a pass down, =
now it's 20 minutes to be able to pedal a car with 500 hp and not have =
to worry about pedestrians much less traffic pulling out in front of =
you.
      I've found I got much more reliable results on the dyno, could =
hook up every test instrument we can think of and someone can stand =
there and watch it if we can't datalog it. Sure can't do that going down =
the road. I've run on long enough. Later, Mark

  These software packages all allow you to Dyno your car on the road, =
allowing you to set your car up in normal operating temperatures.

  AT least on the dyno we can correct the results to SAE or STD, But I =
rarely see 2 days in the street the same or perhaps it's not that =
important?

  Any thoughts / comments, I want to go for one but am not sure which is =
best.

  Hugh=20


  The Street Dyno     http://www.geocities.com/93notch/StreetDyno/ =20
  On Track Dyno       http://www.ontrackdigital.com/generic.html?pid=3D4 =

  Road Dyno            http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/roaddyno/dyno.htm=20
  Revtrigger             =
http://www.students.tut.fi/~eppu/bin/rev.html#Updates

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  <A title=3Dhugh at sol.co.uk href=3D"mailto:hugh at sol.co.uk">Hugh</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddiy_efi at diy-efi.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:diy_efi at diy-efi.org">diy_efi at diy-efi.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 22, 2001 =
5:50 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Dyno testing turbo =
cars</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Hi Guys,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Dyno testing is an expensive hobby =
and seems to=20
  be hard on the engine and transmission. I also feel the temperatures=20
  especially on turbo cars rise so quickly that any tuning modifications =
are=20
  likely to be inaccurate.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Perhaps your time on a dyno didn't =
have enought=20
  cool time between pulls. Have to let the engine temp and intercooler =
temps get=20
  back to normal whether it's on the road or on the dyno. I've got some =
pretty=20
  good fans on the Dynojet I have and believe me, I don't miss trying to =
dial in=20
  a fuel injection system on a car making 5 or 600 hp at the wheels in =
the road.=20
  Even 400 is a real pill if the conditions aren't perfect. With the =
traffic=20
  laws and traffic as they are now, I for one don't need a ticket for =
the=20
  careless and reckless along with speeding in excess of the speed limit =

  anywhere in the US for trying to get a "good pass" down a country road =
to=20
  record a sound track on a tape recorder that I'll have to clean and =
alter in=20
  order to show "my pull" on the computor so then I can make a change =
and go do=20
  it again. Sure can do a lot of testing in a few hours and not waste =
one minute=20
  on the little ole gray haired lady, other&nbsp;traffic, the Law, the =
weather=20
  or the thousand other assorted problems that happen when out driving =
on public=20
  roads. Course, you are the one you have to justify your time and money =
too. As=20
  far as dyno testing being hard on the engine and transmission, in the =
last 2=20
  years, I've killed the trans on 3 cars on the dyno in high gear and =
we've=20
  wounded 2 engines bad enough to have to tow them away. If it won't =
live on the=20
  dyno, it sure won't last long in the street.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We have more and =
more guys=20
  showing up and complaining that they can't get consistent test passes =
at the=20
  drag strip. Starting line conditions, weather changes from pass to =
pass, most=20
  often, just not enough time to make passes, ie( too many cars). In the =
last 14=20
  years here, the traffic density has increased drasticly, then I could =
drive 5=20
  minutes and have a diserted business park street to make a pass down, =
now it's=20
  20 minutes to be able to pedal a car with 500 hp and not have to worry =
about=20
  pedestrians much less traffic pulling out in front of =
you.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've found I got =
much more=20
  reliable results on the dyno, could hook up every test instrument we =
can think=20
  of and someone can stand there and watch it if we can't datalog it. =
Sure can't=20
  do that going down the road. I've run on long enough. Later, =
Mark</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>These software packages all allow =
you to Dyno=20
  your car on the road, allowing you to set your car up in normal =
operating=20
  temperatures.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>AT least on the dyno we can correct =
the results=20
  to SAE or STD, But I rarely see 2 days in the street the same or =
perhaps it's=20
  not that important?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Any thoughts / comments, I want to =
go for one=20
  but am not sure which is best.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Hugh</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>The Street Dyno &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.geocities.com/93notch/StreetDyno/">http://www.geocitie=
s.com/93notch/StreetDyno/</A>&nbsp;=20
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>On Track=20
  Dyno&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ontrackdigital.com/generic.html?pid=3D4">http://www.on=
trackdigital.com/generic.html?pid=3D4</A>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Road=20
  =
Dyno&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/roaddyno/dyno.htm">http://www.charm=
.net/~mchaney/roaddyno/dyno.htm</A>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana=20
  =
size=3D2>Revtrigger&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.students.tut.fi/~eppu/bin/rev.html#Updates">http://www=
.students.tut.fi/~eppu/bin/rev.html#Updates</A></FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCK=
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