[Diy_efi] tiny injection
The Punisher
punisher454 at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 25 09:15:00 GMT 2002
For Small engines I have been thinking about a centrifugal supercharger made
from a vaccum cleaner impeller, overdriven by means of a small cog belt
drive. The bearing support section could be a basic aluminum plate, and the
compressor housing could be fiberglass(or CF). The whole thing could be made
with common garage tools and a drill press. An order of magnitude simpler
than sizing a turbo to the application.
Centrifugal blowers are realy quite simple devices(and SERIOUSLY
OVER-PRICED). Another thing to consider is if using a carb make sure its a
"draw through" configuration, since the small engine carbs use a low
pressure fuel supply system. A "draw through" also lets the impeller spin
with low drag in the high vaccum of part throttle and cruise conditions.
Full size car centrifugals like Vortech, ATI, Paxton/NOVI and the like
expose the compressor to full atmospheric pressure at all times and have to
have a "bypass" system open most of the time, This wastes energy during
normal driving(its done this way to make the kits "bolt on's").
The real problem with supercharging a small 2 stroke is determining how much
you can boost it before youre just blowing it through the exhaust. Small
4-strokes would be another story.
Just my $.02
Marvin Fugate
From: Brian Dessent <brian at dessent.net>
>Reply-To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
>To: diy_efi at diy-efi.org
>Subject: Re: [Diy_efi] tiny injection
>Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:32:43 -0700
>
>Santi Udomkesmalee wrote:
>
> > I think making a turbo would be quite hard since I don't think turbines
>that
> > small are easy to come by. But this makes me want to design and build a
> > small belt driven supercharger. Does anyone out there have any
>experience
> > fabricating superchargers. Anybody want to point me to some books? Is
> > there any way to make a super charger without having to cut extremely
> > complex compressor wheels or blades (I unfortunatly don't have access to
>a 6
> > axis cnc machine)
>
>In MacInnes' book _Turbochargers_ in the section on motorcycle turbos
>there is a picture of a Warner-Ishi RHB3, and the caption says it's
>suited for engines down to 0.5L. It's pictured next to a roll of film
>for size comparison, and the compressor housing isn't much bigger than
>the film (the wastegate actuator is almost as big as the whole
>housing.) This book is almost 20 years old, so I wouldn't be surprised
>if some manufacturer now offers a smaller model. It's worth a shot to
>look at the catalogs or call the manufacturers. I would sure not want
>to try to fabricate such a thing myself, the metallurgy and precision
>both seem pretty advanced.
>
>Brian
>
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