Turbo Project update. The good, bad and ugly.

[Jake Kooser]

Okay, as a newbie who's really lurking gathering info until I attempt to put
TBI on my suburban, maybe I shouldn't say anything...  But I just gotta
point out, Jon, you're one sick puppy.  I mean that in the best possible
way, anybody that would put a pair of turbos on a parts car is my kind of
people.  Where's the power live at with that setup?  Is there any bottom
end, or do you just have to make it scream to get the goods?  How many 4WD
burnouts could my transfer case withstand?  Sorry, don't know where that
last question came from...

Jake Kooser

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gmecm at diy-efi.org [mailto:owner-gmecm at diy-efi.org]On Behalf
> Of Jon Fedock
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 10:38 PM
> To: gmecm at diy-efi.org
> Subject: Re: Turbo Project update. The good, bad and ugly.
>
>
> Definitely fuel pump problem. Pump not able to hold but 30 psi at
> best(pinched return line). Pump also runs inconsistently. No fuel runs
> through the return at idle(!). You may be right about the noise in dragon
> mode. I'm hoping there wasn't enough fuel to knock bad enough to hurt
> anything. I hope that makes sense.
> Jon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Zug <dzug at delanet.com>
> To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Turbo Project update. The good, bad and ugly.
>
>
> > MAYBE just a misfiring / unburnt fuel problem?  the knock
> counts are from
> > the racket the turbos caused when playing dragon.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jon Fedock <Galadar at worldnet.att.net>
> > To: gmecm <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 5:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Turbo Project update. The good, bad and ugly.
> >
> >
> > >      There was no audible knock that I could hear, however there was
> > > "machine gun fire" from the exhaust when it went lean (open exhaust
> about
> > > 2.5 ft beyond turbo). People watching said the fire was
> pretty :). I was
> > > watching the scan tool (OTC 2000 thanks again) when it happened.
> > Performance
> > > had fallen off somewhat just before, thats why I was paying particular
> > > attention. The knock sensor has been tested using a soft hammer on the
> > > intake. Shows one count. Thanks for your input.
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Dave Zug <dzug at delanet.com>
> > > To: <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Turbo Project update. The good, bad and ugly.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Heres what I know. (read: what I have read, and recall)
> > > >
> > > > 1.  6-8 knock counts is nothing over a 2 second period.
> > > > 2.  Don't trust the scan software to accurately report ANYTHING
> > important,
> > > > specially as it relates to time.
> > > > 3.  6 knock counts recorded can be deadly, if your knock
> sensor is not
> > > > sensing knock properly.
> > > > 4.  Item number 1 is more troublesome if your knock was audible, and
> > > lasted
> > > > the enture time (2 sec)
> > > > 5   I beleive severe knock will be indicated by a drastic timing
> change
> > > for
> > > > a single count, rather than multiple counts per se. Multiple counts
> can
> > > > produce a minor timing reaction if the strikes are minor.  look in
> your
> > > > recording for max timing removed.
> > > >
> > > > If you get ZERO knock counts commonly, I might suspect too
> much teflon
> > > tape
> > > > or incorrect netres, or incorrect knock sensor... and consider 6
> counts
> > to
> > > > be bad.
> > > >
> > > > 9.  forget all that and go read thrasher engineerings entire site!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Jon Fedock <Galadar at worldnet.att.net>
> > > > To: gmecm <gmecm at diy-efi.org>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 7:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Turbo Project update. The good, bad and ugly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Group,
> > > > >      Just an update on my progress to date with my turbo project.
> > > > Background
> > > > > info: 350 chevy motor out of '74 van, two T3 turbos, TPI intake,
> Syty
> > > > > software running on 730, intercoolers added two weeks ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Good: 15 psi of boost is VERY good :) :) :)
> > > > > The Bad: Gas mileage SUCKS in boost! Hooking up is impossible -
> > > > > no,IMPOSSIBLE.
> > > > > The Ugly: This weekend the fuel pump went south during a spirited
> > 15psi
> > > > > jaunt :( I don't yet know if the pistons are hurt. I
> don't think so,
> > but
> > > I
> > > > > will not know for sure 'till I replace the pump and drive it.
> > > > >
> > > > > My question (of many): What is the relevance of "knock counts?" I
> > guess
> > > a
> > > > > better question would be how many knock counts are associated with
> > > > terminal
> > > > > damage? A view of the scan tool showed 6-8 knock counts three
> seperate
> > > > times
> > > > > total time about 2 seconds. Under normal circumstances
> its at 0. Any
> > > > > speculation appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon Fedock
> > > > > www.geocities.com/JonFedock <------Hmmm, need to update.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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